talk more then about the similarities between jackie kennedy and mrs. clinton. >> there is also a lot of great differences, of course, because jacqueline kennedy did, carry to popular belief, have a great knowledge and interest in public issues and political issues but she didn't get into them and she wouldn't address them in public. she only did so privately. like betty ford, hillary clinton has always talked about the rights of women and that this is important and she has actually even brought that point out from a very practical point of view to many nations that don't include women in their societies as fully. she says, look, you're not using 100% of what you could be using in terms of brain and know-how and business skill and workforce. and you suffer by that and like dolley madison, as first lady in the white house, she very effectively used entertaining as a way to sometimes forward the objectives of her husband's political agenda. certainly, what people also don't realize about hillary clinton is she had a great love and fascination for american